Still Using (And Not Wanting to Give Up) Eudora Mail Program?

A couple of years ago, I posted something about finding a substitute for Eudora. It turned out there were a lot of people who didn’t want to give up this superior mail program, but were forced to because of new operating systems. Someone wrote in a comment yesterday, and Rick Gordon replied as shown below.

“I’m currently trying Postbox 3.x, together with SpamSieve, and I think it’s the best compromise for me yet, though it’s a big change in working style from Eudora, though closer to Thunderbird (whose code it’s based on) or even Apple Mail. The most Eudora-like program out there now, though is GyazMail. I doesn’t handle HTML as elegantly as Postbox (which is essentially based on Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird) or Apple Mail (based on Webkit/Safari), but it’s a lot better than Eudora, and it’s got the separate window interface like classic Eudora.

   To get into Postbox, you need to export to Mail first, though, as it doesn’t (any longer) support Eudora import.”

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About Lloyd Kahn

Lloyd Kahn started building his own home in the early '60s and went on to publish books showing homeowners how they could build their own homes with their own hands. He got his start in publishing by working as the shelter editor of the Whole Earth Catalog with Stewart Brand in the late '60s. He has since authored six highly-graphic books on homemade building, all of which are interrelated. The books, "The Shelter Library Of Building Books," include Shelter, Shelter II (1978), Home Work (2004), Builders of the Pacific Coast (2008), Tiny Homes (2012), and Tiny Homes on the Move (2014). Lloyd operates from Northern California studio built of recycled lumber, set in the midst of a vegetable garden, and hooked into the world via five Mac computers. You can check out videos (one with over 450,000 views) on Lloyd by doing a search on YouTube:

28 Responses to Still Using (And Not Wanting to Give Up) Eudora Mail Program?

  1. Lloyd;

    One of my fears is that sooner or later, the "experts" will "improve" the POP3 protocols, and leave me stranded with a Eudora 7 installation that no longer fetches (or even sends) messages. Since there is no import path for saved Eudora mailbox messages, 17 years of archived email would be lost.

    I suppose that it's equally possible that Micro$oft "experts" will "improve" the Win OS so that Eudora will no longer even open and run, and I'll lose even the ability to search and read the archived messages.

    Just something else to worry about while laying awake at night….

  2. Rick, thanks for that, although it won't be of much use here, as I indicated, I'm a Windows user. Eventually, M$oft will force me over to another OS, but it will likely be some flavor of Linux rather than anything Apple.

    Your link to Eudora Mailbox Cleaner was useful, however, as the site contained a link to Eudora Rescue, which appears to allow converting to a more "standard" mailbox format, including those supported by Linux-compatible mail applications. I will likely do a download and archive the application and instructions on my local machine for that dark day when I can no longer use Eudora.

  3. Eudora v7.1.0.9 does everything I need and can do even more. The day it stops working for whatever reason is the day I quit using email.

  4. I have found my people in you, Lloyd and other commenters — the handful of us (perhaps in the world) who still use Eudora and would like to continue to. Indeed, I fear losing 17 years of archived emails. Now I'm starting to get weird, random corruptions of my Out mailbox. Perhaps shifting and importing to Thunderbird is all we can do? Brot Coburn 307-733-4124

  5. I love Eudora. Bought the very first version and knew some of the folks who supported it at Qualcomm.

    I think I may have discovered something, however. I keep a "Leave mail on Server" version on my laptop so that all mail will end up on my console. I think that, perhaps, deleting mail that ends up as "Junk" deletes it from the server.

    Could Eudora be doing that?

    I noticed another issue on Windows 10 on this laptop, the only computer upgraded so far. Most times Eudora comes up in expanded screen mode and I have to click on the upper right corner square to return it to the standard size. (showing two overlapping boxes) Windows 10 problem?? I do, from time to time, see some message corruption in Windows 10 but am waiting for a new SSD drive . . . the drive I have now doesn't pass some startup diagnostics and half the time needs a forced restart to get out of 100% activity.

  6. Amazing how an old product this good just doesn't become a standard. I too hoard my emails of past, mainly for registrations to sites or software, so I like the ability to be able to copy the email folder and place it elsewhere, or replace it with a backup when needed. No need to reinstall, no pieces laying out in windows many hide-out folders, all data and attachments within folders within Eudora. I'm looking around myself to find the best alternative that gives me the same, but better/updated capabilities. I just tried clam mail, and it seems okay, but there isn't an import mail from Eudora feature.

  7. I am still using Eudora 6.2 daily for work on my MacBook Pro. I have moved my Eudora installation through several different computers over the past 20-some years. The day it no longer works with a new OS will be a very sad one for me. I have email saved in some of my mailboxes from 1994.

    I use Thunderbird for my personal email but it's not nearly as nice as Eudora.

  8. I am still using Eudora 7.1.9 or whatever the last version was. I love it and do not want to let it go. I keep getting dissed by the support people at my server, whenever some little problem comes up. They always say the fault is that I use Eudora, even when their server is getting attacked from outside their system!! It is sure annoying. I would love to see some stats on how many people are still using Eudora. As others here have said, the day I can no longer use Eudora will be a sad day for me—plus I will lose my archive which shows years of work and work contacts.
    I see a lot fo moaning and groaning about email glitches and "upgrades" with Gmail etc. and I think: None of that nonsense with Eudora. Everything is simple and clear.
    (nhot sure whether this post will go through . . .)

  9. I am an IT support.
    The world keep changing, we have to keep servers up to date to fix new security issues. I order to protect user's data and services, we can't stop patching and updating our servers. Old technologies may be faded out during each upgrade, email client should also keep updated to match the changes.

    I understand learning new things is not easy for elderly, but we can't prevent this in the digital age. We can't prevent changing of smartphones, computers, OS, ATM, payment methods, now a days….

    We can't stop you from keep using the legacy software, but please take your own risk and responsibility. IT guys really have difficulties to support legacy software.


  10. I still use Eudora and love the fact that mailboxes are discrete folders. However, my very favorite feature is that it saves all attachments in an attachments folder. Can any other email program do this? I keep a shortcut to that folder, sorted by date. I sometimes find an attachment that alerts me to an email I had originally ignored. As a Web developer, this is a great tool. I want to keep Eudora forever, but more and more emails now arrive with strange formatting since it can't handle UTF8.

  11. You can download older versions at

    I do truly wish there was a good Eudora replacement. I love Eudora, but it's getting harder and harder to work with on new operating systems. And if you have an issue (such as imap.dll) you're screwed without support.

    I too have used it for many years. I'm a system administrator. I like new technology. I think the "IT Support" guy above missed the point totally.

    He wants to claim it's only old people who don't have the mental power to make changes who use Eudora. It's not. I love my SmartPhones, I run my own PBX system. I manage a pile of servers. I have VM machines. I'm a techie nerd. But… I have never found an email program as good as Eudora. I wish I had because I'd change to keep up with the new operating systems.

  12. I'm still hanging on and using Eudora, and — like many of you, it seems —
    will be greatly displaced when it no longer operates. I'd be thrilled if I could find a way to overcome this one glitch: many (but not all) incoming emails read all the apostrophes (') in the text as "’", like some Neptunian hipster chatter — which makes it difficult when replying or forwarding the email (as well as when reading it). Might there be any work-around for this? With many thanks, Brot 307-690-7574 (in Wyoming)

  13. Godaddy keeps fiddling with my hosting accounts and now I cant send via my Eudora paid version. I too keep using it (via a Win2K VM running on Parallels), because of my **21** years of emails. I look every few years at migrating but have never found a way to successfully export my archive into something that would import it.

  14. I was told I had to give up Eudora when the keys on my last laptop gave out and I had to replace it. I made the mistake of trying to use Pegasus. (Don't do it–hangs up every time it downloads mail. It has filtering, but it doesn't work very well). I miss my Eudora and don't know what I'll do now that I have a Pegasus mess. I may try Postbox.

    Why didn't they keep it going and upgrade it? what a loss.

  15. Wow, there's still other people using Eudora!
    I thought I was the only one. Been using it since 1995.

    I'd happily give it up for something newer AND better… but there's only newer without better. sigh…

  16. Dear Anonymous — Like you, I thought I was the only one left in the world using Eudora, until a kind reader on this list — Chris, I think —
    turned me on to this vibrant community of Eudora users who answer questions and have developed work-arounds. (Katrina is the main poster, and some sort of wizard, it seems to me.) After you subscribe, you'll get a welcome message that explains how the list works:

    Let me kniow if you have trouble. Brot

  17. Dear Anonymous — Like you, I thought I was the only one left in the world using Eudora, until a kind reader on this list — Chris, I think —
    turned me on to this vibrant community of Eudora users who answer questions and have developed work-arounds. (Katrina is the main poster, and some sort of wizard, it seems to me.) After you subscribe, you'll get a welcome message that explains how the list works:

    Let me kniow if you have trouble. Brot

  18. The link to subscribe to the Eudora list may not have come through, above. And note the preamble:

    NOTE: EVERY COMMAND SENT TO THE GAZELLE SERVER *MUST* HAVE THE WORD "GAZELLE" SOMEWHERE IN THE SUBJECT LINE! If you forget to do this, your message will be ignored by the server — that is, you will not receive a bounce, an error, or any other form of reply. FYI, the word "Gazelle" is case independent — it may appear as "Gazelle," "gazelle," "gaZEllE," etc. It does not matter where the word appears on the Subject line.

  19. I am also a faithful Eudora user, since the mid 1990's. I have two sons who are software programmers, I wonder if I could talk one of them into writing a Eudora like mail program for us. Personally I would pay money for it. I have tried other mail programs as well and was dissatisfied with them all.

    This morning Google emailed me and said I should turn off less secure Apps, so I did it with a button they provided, guess what it turned off Eudora as well, figured it out and reversed the procedure and Eudora is working again. I have to update manually security certificates every few weeks, but thats no big deal, been doing that a long time to keep Eudora going. My wife laughs at me when I say Eudora is the best mail program ever written. In my opinion and obviously a lot of others it is the best mail program out there!!!

  20. Another Eudora hanger-on here. I'm still with Eudora OSE after no longer being able to use the original Eudora that I had been with since the 1990s. I would gladly pay for a new version. In the meantime, I am checking out the other options since my OS can no longer access Dropbox, but nothing seems likeable.

  21. To tell the truth, guys, after being dragged kicking and screaming and delaying from Eudora, I've adjusted to Mac Mail. It actually does a bunch of things better than Eudora, although Eudora still has a place in my heart. A tip of the hat to Steve Dorner for developing a brilliant piece of software (in 1988).

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